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Hi Prima,
The insurgentes were the Cristeros who were fighting for the
Church against the Government.
Irma

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I would like to invite all the members of the group to visit the Albums section of our site. There are very interesting and beautiful pictures in the albums. If you have not had a chance to visit this section yet, I suggest you plan to visit it the next time you find some free time (who 's got that?) to explore ALL of the albums. Consider adding your favorite pictures to the collection for the benefit and enjoyment of the group.

Hi, primos y primas. I've loaded a few new photos to my photo album if you want to take a peek. I'm particularly upload challenged...I've tried uploading stuff before and I'm sure it's whirling around in the stratosphere somewhere and destined never to alight anywhere.

I hope our Mexican relations know that most of us Pochos do NOT share the hostility displayed by our elected officials, and vigilante posses towards undocumented immigrants. If it was up to me, I would grant a full and complete blanket amnesty.

Has anyone on the NuestrosRanchos list had a Y-DNA or mtDNA test with
FamilyTreeDNA or other testing facility?

I've had my Y-DNA results for the Romero Surname and they are
unusual. I am interested if anyone whose ancestors are from the

What is the definition of a Criollo/Criolla?

Maria Gutierrez-Uhlenburg

For Stuart and others interested in the origens of the pueblos of Aguascalientes, I've just posted two pages in Reference materials on the foundation of the pueblos of Aguascalientes. Included are San Jose de Gracia and Rincon de Romos.

http://omega.ilce.edu.mx:3000/sites/estados/libros/aguas/html/aguascali…

This site has lots of information on the political and social changes in Aguascalientes.

Arturo,

Are there any filmed records of annulments in Mexico? Would they be called anulaciones? I know that annulments have to be approved by upper levels of the Catholic hierarchy, and that the process took a long time, unless the man had money to pay. It seems a man could get an annulment from the Catholic church for himself or for his children if he was rich enough. Women could only get them in certain cases.

Another question I have is during the religious wars in Mexico during the 1920 through 1927, they referred to some of the people fighting as insurgentes. Who were the insurgentes? Where they the people fighting for Catholicism or were they the people that were for the government?

Joseph,
Here is the last one I can't think of anything else to ask.

Maria Gutierrez-Uhlenburg

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From: Josie T. Trevino [mailto:josiett3@satx.rr.com]
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 4:28 AM
To: 'ranchos@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [ranchos] [Nuestros Ranchos] Zacatecas Films

I wanted to wish all the Fathers in the the group a Happy Fathers Day.. What a wonderful gift you're giving your children and future generations of your line by working so hard to give them a history and foundation to build on.. I'm sure the ancestors are proud, happy and humbled to be remembered.

Do you have a relative that served in the following conflicts: World War II, Korea, Vietnam, Persian Gulf, Afganistan, or Iraq?
If so, please read about the VETERANS HISTORY PROJECT of the Library of Congress. LOC is attempting to collect FIRST-HAND accounts of those who served in these conflicts. LOC would also like first-hand accounts of those who participated in support-services such as: war industry, USO, or medical volunteer. Alas, my three uncles who served in WWII (one who was career Navy and served in Korea and Vietnam, too; and whose PARENTS were BORN in ZACATECAS) have died, and are unable to provide their first-hand accounts.

Marge -

I showed my husband your message about the theaters in El Paso. He too went to the same theaters, and he waxed nostalgic. He told me:

"I remember in the early forties walking into the El Alcazar theater and the 'unbearable stench of being' hitting my nose immediately. In those days before air-conditioning in most theaters, and the weather outside around 110, and the young men that frequented the theater sporting flannel socks and tennis shoes (not Nikes or sneakers, but the real tennis shoes, two strips of canvas that laced up the ankles), you had the makings for a real 'pot boiler'. We dubbed the theater "El Calzetin".

Okay Joseph and Ranchos members,

Here are 8 netflix movies, they may be available at blockbuster too but I don't know that for a fact. I have selected them not only for their historical content but are above reproach and are appropriate for family viewing.

Arturo and Joseph,

Suzanne Harris of NARA has returned the batch of five requests I sent her. There were two cover letters that I will paraphrase here:

"Since 1845 there had been attempts in the United States to create or require a record of aliens within the country. Registration of alien enemy residents of the United States was required during World War I under section 19 of the President's Proclamation of November 16, 1917. A central set of records of the registration of alien enemies [Germans and ?], consisting of their registration affidavits, was assembled by the Department of Justice in Washington, DC during the war. However, in 1940, the Department of Justice reported to the National Archives that these registration affidavits had been destroyed with the permission of Congress. A small number of these registrations have survived and can be found in our regional archives in San Bruno, CA and Kansas City, MO. It is possible that others have survived on the county or state level."

Linda,

My brother had the FamilyTree Y-DNA test done. His results are posted to
Gary Felix DNA Surname project. He tested R1b. If you want more details,
please contact me directly.

Maria

Dear Ranchos Members,

I have with the help of Arturo up-loaded my husband's genealogy
GEDCOM file to my Genealogy folder. Looking forward to linking with
other Ranchos Members.

Last evening after sharing what I thought was a link with Maria

I am aware that the following films were filmed in
Zacatecas:
"The Cisco Kid" (the one with Jimmy Smits and Cheech
Marin);
"The Old Gringo" (Gregory Peck, Jane Fonda - ?? - I
can't remember for sure)

I apologize, I wasn't clear in my message about not knowing how to
submit.. I meant all my records, 23,000 or more names with many not
connected to me... yet!

Ancestry.com has 2 family tree sites, OneWorldTree is a pay site. Once

Stuart,

I am in the same boat you are. My husband's ancestors were from the exact same places you mentioned. The place where they were baptized, married, etc is not the same place where they were born or buried. You have to look for the phrase "originario de" for the name of the place they were born. For example, I was looking in the records of the La Encarnacion (Jalisco) church for baptisms and marriages thinking my husband's ancestors were born in the town of Encarnacion de Diaz where the church is located, then I realized that the records kept stating they were "originario de Santa Maria" which must have been a large hacienda village nearby. It seems they had big cathedrals in some towns (pueblos, villas?) where people living in the surrounding haciendas would come to be baptized, etc.

My father's nick name is el Chorro's (he had stomach problems I think) , his brother Manuel is el Profe (Professor), Gregorio was el Piojo (small one/ lice), Jose is known as el Mocho to this day (he accidently cut a couple of his fingers off), Antonio is Maraguas (unsure of meaning), and my grandfather's nick name was el Guero (light one).

Listen up everyone please follow Arturo's instructions. Filling the Data
that is missing from you profile will help the search engine work
better. if you don't know how to do it then email me privately and we'll

My husband and I just finished watching Streets of Laredo, through Netflix.

It was an offshoot of the Lonesome Dove made for TV movie (1995)and it takes place in the wildwest days, mostly Texas/Mexico border. I couldn't help but think of the days when our ancestors came across the border and what trials they must have endured. Some people probably made it and some may have perished with the possibility that no one ever knew where their remains were or what could have happened to them. Those that did live probably had a very difficult life, Mexicans were on the bottom end of the food chain.