I am getting stymied with Jose Jesus Najar(b1760), father Manuel, mom Maria Gertrudis, married Maria de los Dolores 1780 Jalostotitlan. I am finding multiple surnames for the mother and wife. If anyone can help me keep moving back I would appreciate it.
Looks like the name is JOSEPH DE JESUS NAJAR SANCHEZ and he married Maria de los Dolores Moya Y Plasencia on 05 FEB 1780 at Nuestra Senora De La Asuncion, Jalostotitlan, Jalisco, Mexico, and his parents were MANUEL NAJAR and MARIA GERTRUDIS SANCHEZ.
Maria de los Dolores Moya Y Placencia has parents named Manuel Moya and it seems like the mother's first name, "Maria Gertrudis", is assumed ...but her surname "Plasencia' appears to carry forward when mentioned in other children and grandchildren birth records. The mother's name "Maria Gertrudis" is mentioned in the marriage record but it could be a transcription error since the grooms mother's first name is also "Maria Gertrudis"..... Anyway, there it is...hope it helps.
I have seen that, but the thing is, the records list Dolores Moya or Dolores Plasencia, never Dolores Moya y Plasencia. Only in the pedigree chart do you see the two names together. I have yet to find a record that lists Dolores' parents and Jesus Najar.
as you will note when following mexican genealogy there is a lot of flexibility in using either the mother's or the father's surname. it is not atypical to see that, sometimes they would use the surname of the mothers ONLY since the father's surname is assumed in the childs name..... really quite annoying..
what makes it look valid is the chidlren and grandchildren records where the surnames are mentioned. ..... however, you are correct .. I am not sure if the Plasencia name is valid... or if somehow it got conflated into the the tree...
This looks like the tree you're searching for....
Looks like the name is JOSEPH DE JESUS NAJAR SANCHEZ and he married Maria de los Dolores Moya Y Plasencia on 05 FEB 1780 at Nuestra Senora De La Asuncion, Jalostotitlan, Jalisco, Mexico, and his parents were MANUEL NAJAR and MARIA GERTRUDIS SANCHEZ.
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/pedigree/landscape/MTLL-1TK
Maria de los Dolores Moya Y Placencia has parents named Manuel Moya and it seems like the mother's first name, "Maria Gertrudis", is assumed ...but her surname "Plasencia' appears to carry forward when mentioned in other children and grandchildren birth records. The mother's name "Maria Gertrudis" is mentioned in the marriage record but it could be a transcription error since the grooms mother's first name is also "Maria Gertrudis"..... Anyway, there it is...hope it helps.
I have seen that, but the…
I have seen that, but the thing is, the records list Dolores Moya or Dolores Plasencia, never Dolores Moya y Plasencia. Only in the pedigree chart do you see the two names together. I have yet to find a record that lists Dolores' parents and Jesus Najar.
as you will note when…
as you will note when following mexican genealogy there is a lot of flexibility in using either the mother's or the father's surname. it is not atypical to see that, sometimes they would use the surname of the mothers ONLY since the father's surname is assumed in the childs name..... really quite annoying..
what makes it look valid is the chidlren and grandchildren records where the surnames are mentioned. ..... however, you are correct .. I am not sure if the Plasencia name is valid... or if somehow it got conflated into the the tree...
here is the image of their marriage.....
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-XYBV-Z?i=558&cc=1874591