On Jan 1, 2007, at 6:25 PM, research-
request@lists.nuestrosranchos.org wrote:
>
> Tony, what haplogroup are you? My Uncle Louis Gutierrez is
> Haplogroup N and the thinking is that he's Native American since a
> sub-group Haplogroup N3 found in Seville Spain is thought to be
> from Moctezuma's retinue who were there, otherwise Haplogroup N is
> found in Siberia, Finland and Russia today.. I've noticed
> Indeginous males are usually HaplogroupQ or Q1.. and Indeginous
> woman are Haplogroups A, B, C or D.. My mtdna came back Haplogroup
> A. which would be Nahua in Mexico, Lakota, Zuni, Navajo and others
> in the states and Haida in Canada and Eleut in Alaska, first group
> A traceable to Siberia. Have you submitted your results to Gary
> Felix's dna site?
> Linda in Everett
>
My father was born in Tepatitlan de Morelos, Jalisco and is
Haplogroup J2b1b (old J2e2). His father and grandfather were born in
the Guadalajara area. Are there any other members with this
Haplogroup? I'm hoping someone else from this area tests and I can
find some relatives.
Linda Romero
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I wanted to share with the group another interesting DNA find in my family. My son in law was always told he was Yaqui on his fathers side and Spanish on his mothers side. His physical appearance made both claims seem correct. He knew his paternal Moreno line was from Pitiquito Sonora, he got his DNA results back and they are E3A, African. We know that that line also shows in Puerto Rico from the slave trade in early 1500's but most American Blacks are also E3A so that complicates finding his lineage even more. Was his Moreno ancestor a runaway America slave or an African slave brought to Mexico?
I would really like to encourage members in this group to have their DNA and MTDNA done to be able to fully reclaim their history and heritage. I know mine so far has been full of surprise's from my mtdna being Group A, Native American to my maternal grandfather Gutierrez being Group N, Siberian or Native American, still unknown.. I'm in the process of having my fathers Castanon line done so what will that bring? Paper work and genetics, what a wonderful match!
Linda in Everett
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In a message dated 1/6/2007 2:56:03 P.M. Central Standard Time,
longsjourney@yahoo.com writes:
wanted to share with the group another interesting DNA find in my family.
My son in law was always told he was Yaqui on his fathers side and Spanish on
his mothers side. His physical appearance made both claims seem correct. He
knew his paternal Moreno line was from Pitiquito Sonora, he got his DNA
results back and they are E3A, African. We know that that line also shows in
Puerto Rico from the slave trade in early 1500's but most American Blacks are
also E3A so that complicates finding his lineage even more. Was his Moreno
ancestor a runaway America slave or an African slave brought to Mexico?
Fascinating discovery Linda!
Here is a thought: apparently many Africans (Moorish ancestry as well) were
differentiated in Europe by their last names - hence, the Moreno surname
might be an indicator of this...can't remember the other surnames (I took this
course many years ago), but Moore in Ireland is one too -- when the Spanish
invaded, the descendants have often been called "Black Irish"...
Esperanza
Chicagoland area
Yaqui Tribe
Dear Linda:
I have been looking all over for something on a Yakhi tribe, but I think I was given an incorrect spelling! Your posting with Yaqui maybe the right spelling. Per my mom-in-law, Catarina Jauregui may have been part Yaqui. Can you give me any information on this? If I can convince one of the family member to submit to a DNA test, what haplogroup would show as Yaqui? Thanks for any help.
Maureen
Yaqui Tribe
Maureen, my knowledge is very limited on the Yaqui. My son in laws Moreno family was from Sonora and Arizona. The Yaqui were on both sides of the border. Indeginous males are dna group Q with variations. Females would be mtdna groups A, B, C or D. Check on the Gary Felix site in Nuestos Ranchos genealogy listings under links..
The only way I've been able to get family to take the test is to pay for it myself. I've done the 12 markers so the cost is around $100.
Linda in Everett
Maureen Bejar wrote:
Dear Linda:
I have been looking all over for something on a Yakhi tribe, but I think I was given an incorrect spelling! Your posting with Yaqui maybe the right spelling. Per my mom-in-law, Catarina Jauregui may have been part Yaqui. Can you give me any information on this? If I can convince one of the family member to submit to a DNA test, what haplogroup would show as Yaqui? Thanks for any help.
Maureen
Yaqui Tribe
On Jan 6, 2007, at 7:33 PM, Maureen Bejar wrote:
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> ***If I can convince one of the family member to submit to a DNA
> test****
Offering to pay for the test would go a LOOOOOONG way to convincing
someone, especially as one is the one wanting the results.:) Marge:)